Discussion:
DPL Voting period
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Kurt Roeckx
2017-04-08 17:34:34 UTC
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Hi,

We're currently in the voting period, the discussion/campaigning
period is over. Can I please ask everybody to stop talking about
things related to the DPL election on this list.


Kurt
Stefano Zacchiroli
2017-04-09 09:35:06 UTC
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Post by Kurt Roeckx
We're currently in the voting period, the discussion/campaigning
period is over. Can I please ask everybody to stop talking about
things related to the DPL election on this list.
I'm not sure I understand why. Since when it is _forbidden_ to discuss
outside the campaign period?
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Kurt Roeckx
2017-04-09 18:25:06 UTC
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Post by Stefano Zacchiroli
Post by Kurt Roeckx
We're currently in the voting period, the discussion/campaigning
period is over. Can I please ask everybody to stop talking about
things related to the DPL election on this list.
I'm not sure I understand why. Since when it is _forbidden_ to discuss
outside the campaign period?
It was always my understanding that this was the case, and as far
as I know people have always stopped discussing after the
campaigning was over.

There are people who already voted and who are not subscribed to
this list. They might have read the archive up to the day they
voted.

I also want to compare this to other elections. As far as I know,
as long as voting booths are open there are no interviews with
politicians, they don't make things like exit polls available and
so on. They only get to persuade people before the booths open.

If people feel that we don't need to do so, please feel free to
discuss that here.


Kurt
Steve Langasek
2017-04-09 19:01:42 UTC
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Post by Kurt Roeckx
Post by Stefano Zacchiroli
Post by Kurt Roeckx
We're currently in the voting period, the discussion/campaigning
period is over. Can I please ask everybody to stop talking about
things related to the DPL election on this list.
I'm not sure I understand why. Since when it is _forbidden_ to discuss
outside the campaign period?
It was always my understanding that this was the case, and as far
as I know people have always stopped discussing after the
campaigning was over.
I think this is largely true, but it is not written into the constitution.
People's attitudes towards continued discussion on debian-vote during the
voting period are probably heavily influenced by their local laws about
campaign blackouts before elections in meatspace.

While discussion on debian-vote usually wraps up once voting starts, I don't
believe there's anything to be enforced here by the Secretary.
Post by Kurt Roeckx
I also want to compare this to other elections. As far as I know,
as long as voting booths are open there are no interviews with
politicians, they don't make things like exit polls available and
so on. They only get to persuade people before the booths open.
Right, this is not a universal physical law of elections, it's only a local
law in some localities :)

And I think the closest analogue to a Debian vote is a meatspace election
that allows early or by-mail voting. I think there's almost universally
some overlap between campaign periods and voting periods in those cases (but
ICBW).
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Wouter Verhelst
2017-04-10 05:58:42 UTC
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Post by Steve Langasek
Post by Kurt Roeckx
It was always my understanding that this was the case, and as far
as I know people have always stopped discussing after the
campaigning was over.
I think this is largely true, but it is not written into the constitution.
People's attitudes towards continued discussion on debian-vote during the
voting period are probably heavily influenced by their local laws about
campaign blackouts before elections in meatspace.
I think that is rather irrelevant. It has been a longstranding tradition
in Debian that we stop campaigning once the vote is running. While we
can obviously always change that tradition, it feels wrong to just go
ahead and do it without any prior discussion about the subject.
Post by Steve Langasek
While discussion on debian-vote usually wraps up once voting starts, I don't
believe there's anything to be enforced here by the Secretary.
To be fair, Kurt mailed in his personal name, he didn't use a secretary@
mail address or try to wear his secretary hat in any other way.
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people in the world who think they really understand all of its rules,
and pretty much all of them are just lying to themselves too.
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Steve McIntyre
2017-04-09 18:44:02 UTC
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Post by Stefano Zacchiroli
Post by Kurt Roeckx
We're currently in the voting period, the discussion/campaigning
period is over. Can I please ask everybody to stop talking about
things related to the DPL election on this list.
I'm not sure I understand why. Since when it is _forbidden_ to discuss
outside the campaign period?
I don't know about *forbidden*, but it's been a long-standing
tradition to have a break from discussion once people start voting...
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